“Champalimaud did not finance the MDLP because Spínola was stupid”

What was everyday life like in 1974 and 1975? Memories of the dizzying day-to-day life in various areas of Portuguese society during the PREC. Interview programme conducted by Rui Ramos and Pedro Jorge Castro.

The discussion about the Council of Ministers’ meals. The threat of a beating to a magistrate. Spínola: the shouting, the kicking under the table, the indecision and the passport with the Patriarch’s name on it. Vasco Gonçalves: “A well-intentioned person, a little bit mentally ill”. The demonstration of the silent majority and March 11th. The war with the CDS and the secret list of bank depositors to finance the Christian Democratic Party. The arrest in the same cell as two PIDE directors. And the escape to Spain disguised with a cape and dyed hair. Second part of the conversation with Colonel Sanches Osório.